Discussion:
"Who Left the Door Open?" - Time Magazine on illegal immigration
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jay
2004-09-14 16:55:16 UTC
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From the current issue of Time Magazine, an in-depth article on
the subject of illegal immigration...
"Who Left the Door Open?
"Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into
the U.S. is scandalously easy?and on the rise. Millions of
illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border
this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME
looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S.
fails to protect itself
"By DONALD L. BARLETT & JAMES B. STEELE
"The next time you pass through an airport and have to
produce a photo ID to establish who you are and then must
remove your shoes, take off your belt, empty your pockets,
prove your laptop is not an explosive device and send your
briefcase or purse through a machine to determine whether
it holds weapons, think about this: In a single day, more
than 4,000 illegal aliens will walk across the busiest
unlawful gateway into the U.S., the 375-mile border between
Arizona and Mexico. No searches for weapons. No shoe removal.
No photo-ID checks. Before long, many will obtain phony
identification papers, including bogus Social Security
numbers, to conceal their true identities and mask their
unlawful presence..."
You can buy the magazine on the newsstand or pay to read the full
article on Time's website, but KFI AM-640 radio in Los Angeles
www.kfi640.com/time_dooropen.html
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?

Jay
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-14 19:03:34 UTC
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Post by jay
From the current issue of Time Magazine, an in-depth article on
the subject of illegal immigration...
"Who Left the Door Open?
"Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into
the U.S. is scandalously easy?and on the rise. Millions of
illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border
this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME
looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S.
fails to protect itself
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?
Jay
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are flooding
in.
It is part of his platform.
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-14 21:32:37 UTC
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Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are flooding
in.
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?

You must have left it out of your message.
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-15 00:24:21 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are flooding
in.
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-15 04:29:48 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding in.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
I would be glad to.

Provide a referent.



" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
krp
2004-09-15 11:36:29 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding in.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
I would be glad to.
Provide a referent.
RIGHT AFTER YOU LEARN TO READ and get a TOUCH of HONESTY CAROL!
'
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-15 15:42:35 UTC
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Post by krp
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding in.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
I would be glad to.
Provide a referent.
RIGHT AFTER YOU LEARN TO READ and get a TOUCH of HONESTY CAROL!
Shouting again? You really should be concerned about your blood pressure.

I find nothing in Kerry's platform resembling what has been claimed
without proof.

But, perhaps since you are a volunteer for the Kerry campaign you might
check with those within the Kerry campaign who would know and tell
us what they say about these unsupported charges.


" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-16 00:13:25 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by krp
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding in.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
I would be glad to.
Provide a referent.
RIGHT AFTER YOU LEARN TO READ and get a TOUCH of HONESTY CAROL!
Shouting again? You really should be concerned about your blood pressure.
I find nothing in Kerry's platform resembling what has been claimed
without proof.
But, perhaps since you are a volunteer for the Kerry campaign you might
check with those within the Kerry campaign who would know and tell
us what they say about these unsupported charges.
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
Kerry is letting in illegals so they vote democrappic.

He has political ads in Spanish in Mexico City, saying he will give them
citizenship in the USA.

(What a lame URL).
Ronald
2004-09-15 13:50:23 UTC
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On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:29:48 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-15 15:54:47 UTC
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Post by Ronald
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:29:48 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
Don't tell me, let me guess:

You don't have any evidence, right?

No facts.

No figures.

No proof.
Ronald
2004-09-16 01:24:37 UTC
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:47 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Ronald
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:29:48 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
You don't have any evidence, right?
No facts.
No figures.
No proof.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, none of you have a sense of humor anymore.
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-16 05:49:50 UTC
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Post by Ronald
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:47 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Ronald
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:29:48 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
You don't have any evidence, right?
No facts.
No figures.
No proof.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, none of you have a sense of humor anymore.
Since when is disease considered to be funny?


" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
J. Alfred Prufrock
2004-09-16 14:29:33 UTC
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 00:49:50 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Ronald
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:54:47 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Ronald
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 23:29:48 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
You don't have any evidence, right?
No facts.
No figures.
No proof.
Oh yeah, almost forgot, none of you have a sense of humor anymore.
Since when is disease considered to be funny?
"Life is to important to take seriously."

Oscar Wilde

And that means all of life, even your own death. Try keeping that in
mind you withered up, sanctimonious twit.
Alfred Einstead
2004-10-11 13:30:46 UTC
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Post by Ronald
Post by Carol Lee Smith
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
Is that why liberals have more STDs?
Central and southern Africa may be impoverished, with (by far) the
lowest life expectancies on this planet, and it may have become the
basketcase of the world, but I hardly think you can call it Liberal.
It is BY FAR one of the most conservative regions on this entire
Planet!

Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-15 04:36:59 UTC
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Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-15 05:46:56 UTC
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John Kerry is flooding America with Mexicans that must vote for him => 18+
million more people !! on the welfare roles, and in the hospitals, and many
more coming up from the boarder now, it is their last chance.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
As president, John Kerry will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that
allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification,Under the Kerry-Edwards approach, undocumented workers who
have lived and worked here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are
successfully screened for security purposes will have a path to citizenship.
As president, John Kerry will also expand opportunities to learn English and
obtain civic education classes to help immigrants assume all of the rights
and responsibilities of citizenshipKerry has a different approach. He will
offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to earn
legalization, This bill will secure the rights and futures for hard-working,
honorable agricultural workers and will secure a legal labor force for
America's farmers. undocumented workers who have lived and worked here for 5
years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for security
purposes will have a path to citizenship
Under John Kerry's approach, undocumented workers who have lived and worked
here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for
security purposes will have a path to citizenship. Kerry will also expand
opportunities to learn English and obtain civic education classes to help
immigrants assume all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.

Reuniting Families. Kerry will eliminate the massive administrative backlog
and delay that has left many families unnecessarily divided for a decade or
more. Our Nation's immigration system must be able to more quickly reunite
husbands with wives, parents with children. Legal permanent residents
seeking to reunify with spouses and children must be provided a fair and
efficient process to do so, and let them in.

Visa Program with Worker Protections. Kerry will establish a secure channel
for a limited number of temporary workers to come into the United States. To
protect all working people in the United States, Kerry will ensure that
these temporary workers have the protections of U.S. employment and labor
laws, including fair wage protections. These protections must be rigorously
enforced.

John Kerry called into the United Farm Workers annual conference being held
in Fresno, California, and restated his commitment to sign the AgJobs and
DREAM Act bills pending in Congress and to introduce comprehensive
immigration reform within his first 100 days as President.


The AgJobs bill is bipartisan legislation that will secure the rights and
futures for hard working, honorable agricultural workers and will secure a
legal labor force for America's farmers. The Dream Act would make higher
education a reality for tens of thousands of immigrant students, opening the
doors of opportunity to them.

"As president, I would immediately sign the AgJobs and DREAM Act bills,"
said Kerry. "More importantly, I will also do what this administration has
failed to do in its nearly four years in office: I will address the issue
of the millions of undocumented immigrants who labor, often abused, in the
shadows of our country."

John Kerry is committed to offer a comprehensive immigration reform bill
within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration. This proposal
would allow immigrants to earn legalization, encourage family reunification
and strengthen border protections. Kerry's plan will include a visa worker
program that will provide real labor protections to our nation's entire
labor force, unlike President Bush's proposal, which creates a permanent
underclass.

"By reforming our immigration laws, creating and keeping jobs in America,
making health care more accessible and providing a path to higher education,
we will honor America's promise," said Kerry.

"As president I would immediately sign the AgJobs bill, and would also sign
the DREAM Act to make higher education a reality for tens of thousands of
students, opening the doors of opportunity to them," John Kerry said.
"Within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration, I will offer a
reform bill that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification, and strengthens our border protections. By reforming our
immigration laws, we will honor America's promise and strengthen America's
economy and security."

He will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to
earn legalization, encourages family reunification

He also unveiled plans to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to
Congress in his first hundred days as President, to ensure that good people
who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes
have a path to equal citizenship in the American community

"Hundreds of people seeking only a better life for their children die
terrible deaths in the desert, often at the hands of cruel smugglers," said
Kerry. "Millions live in the shadows of our country, frightened and often
abused. It is time to fulfill the promise of America, so that those who
work hard and take responsibility can build a better life for themselves and
their families."

Kerry's plan will help lift up workers, particularly women and minorities,
and prepare them for the jobs of the future. It includes $10 billion for
states that keep college tuition down, new efforts to encourage 1 million
girls and minorities to pursue science and math, a new initiative to
encourage college completion and new support for worker training.
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-15 05:49:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Yora Ishmel
John Kerry is flooding America with Mexicans that must vote for him => 18+
million more people !! on the welfare roles, and in the hospitals, and many
more coming up from the boarder now, it is their last chance.
Post by Carol Lee Smith
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
As president, John Kerry will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that
allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification,Under the Kerry-Edwards approach, undocumented workers who
have lived and worked here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are
successfully screened for security purposes will have a path to citizenship.
As president, John Kerry will also expand opportunities to learn English and
obtain civic education classes to help immigrants assume all of the rights
and responsibilities of citizenshipKerry has a different approach. He will
offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to earn
legalization, This bill will secure the rights and futures for
hard-working,
Post by Yora Ishmel
honorable agricultural workers and will secure a legal labor force for
America's farmers. undocumented workers who have lived and worked here for 5
years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for security
purposes will have a path to citizenship
Under John Kerry's approach, undocumented workers who have lived and worked
here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for
security purposes will have a path to citizenship. Kerry will also expand
opportunities to learn English and obtain civic education classes to help
immigrants assume all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.
Reuniting Families. Kerry will eliminate the massive administrative backlog
and delay that has left many families unnecessarily divided for a decade or
more. Our Nation's immigration system must be able to more quickly reunite
husbands with wives, parents with children. Legal permanent residents
seeking to reunify with spouses and children must be provided a fair and
efficient process to do so, and let them in.
Visa Program with Worker Protections. Kerry will establish a secure channel
for a limited number of temporary workers to come into the United States. To
protect all working people in the United States, Kerry will ensure that
these temporary workers have the protections of U.S. employment and labor
laws, including fair wage protections. These protections must be rigorously
enforced.
John Kerry called into the United Farm Workers annual conference being held
in Fresno, California, and restated his commitment to sign the AgJobs and
DREAM Act bills pending in Congress and to introduce comprehensive
immigration reform within his first 100 days as President.
The AgJobs bill is bipartisan legislation that will secure the rights and
futures for hard working, honorable agricultural workers and will secure a
legal labor force for America's farmers. The Dream Act would make higher
education a reality for tens of thousands of immigrant students, opening the
doors of opportunity to them.
"As president, I would immediately sign the AgJobs and DREAM Act bills,"
said Kerry. "More importantly, I will also do what this administration has
failed to do in its nearly four years in office: I will address the issue
of the millions of undocumented immigrants who labor, often abused, in the
shadows of our country."
John Kerry is committed to offer a comprehensive immigration reform bill
within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration. This proposal
would allow immigrants to earn legalization, encourage family
reunification
Post by Yora Ishmel
and strengthen border protections. Kerry's plan will include a visa worker
program that will provide real labor protections to our nation's entire
labor force, unlike President Bush's proposal, which creates a permanent
underclass.
"By reforming our immigration laws, creating and keeping jobs in America,
making health care more accessible and providing a path to higher education,
we will honor America's promise," said Kerry.
"As president I would immediately sign the AgJobs bill, and would also sign
the DREAM Act to make higher education a reality for tens of thousands of
students, opening the doors of opportunity to them," John Kerry said.
"Within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration, I will offer a
reform bill that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification, and strengthens our border protections. By reforming our
immigration laws, we will honor America's promise and strengthen America's
economy and security."
He will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to
earn legalization, encourages family reunification
He also unveiled plans to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to
Congress in his first hundred days as President, to ensure that good people
who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes
have a path to equal citizenship in the American community
"Hundreds of people seeking only a better life for their children die
terrible deaths in the desert, often at the hands of cruel smugglers," said
Kerry. "Millions live in the shadows of our country, frightened and often
abused. It is time to fulfill the promise of America, so that those who
work hard and take responsibility can build a better life for themselves and
their families."
Kerry's plan will help lift up workers, particularly women and minorities,
and prepare them for the jobs of the future. It includes $10 billion for
states that keep college tuition down, new efforts to encourage 1 million
girls and minorities to pursue science and math, a new initiative to
encourage college completion and new support for worker training.
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-15 06:02:40 UTC
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Post by Yora Ishmel
John Kerry is flooding America with Mexicans that must
vote for him => 18+ million more people !!
How is John Kerry flooding America with Mexicans?

And only citizens may vote.
Post by Yora Ishmel
on the welfare roles, and in the hospitals, and many
more coming up from the boarder now, it is their last chance.
Why are Mexicans crossing the border?
Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
As president, John Kerry will offer a reform bill in his first 100
days that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification,Under the Kerry-Edwards approach, undocumented workers who
have lived and worked here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are
successfully screened for security purposes will have a path to citizenship.
Give me your tired, your poor

Your huddled masses yearing to breathe free
Post by Yora Ishmel
As president, John Kerry will also expand opportunities to learn English and
obtain civic education classes to help immigrants assume all of the rights
and responsibilities of citizenshipKerry has a different approach.
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore

Send them, the homeless and the tempest-tost to me
Post by Yora Ishmel
He will offer a reform bill in his
first 100 days that allows immigrants to earn
legalization, This bill will secure the rights and futures for hard-working,
honorable agricultural workers and will secure a legal labor force for
America's farmers. undocumented workers who have lived and worked here for 5
years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for security
purposes will have a path to citizenship
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

--Emma Lazarus
Post by Yora Ishmel
Under John Kerry's approach, undocumented workers who have lived and worked
here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for
security purposes will have a path to citizenship. Kerry will also expand
opportunities to learn English and obtain civic education classes to help
immigrants assume all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.
That is a good idea.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Reuniting Families.
Family values.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry will eliminate the massive administrative backlog
and delay that has left many families unnecessarily divided for a decade or
more. Our Nation's immigration system must be able to more quickly reunite
husbands with wives, parents with children. Legal permanent residents
seeking to reunify with spouses and children must be provided a fair and
efficient process to do so, and let them in.
I am almost convinced to vote for Kerry!!

Thank you for posting this.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Visa Program with Worker Protections. Kerry will establish a secure channel
for a limited number of temporary workers to come into the United States. To
protect all working people in the United States, Kerry will ensure that
these temporary workers have the protections of U.S. employment and labor
laws, including fair wage protections. These protections must be rigorously
enforced.
John Kerry called into the United Farm Workers annual conference being held
in Fresno, California, and restated his commitment to sign the AgJobs and
DREAM Act bills pending in Congress and to introduce comprehensive
immigration reform within his first 100 days as President.
The AgJobs bill is bipartisan legislation that will secure the rights and
futures for hard working, honorable agricultural workers and will secure a
legal labor force for America's farmers. The Dream Act would make higher
education a reality for tens of thousands of immigrant students, opening the
doors of opportunity to them.
"As president, I would immediately sign the AgJobs and DREAM Act bills,"
said Kerry. "More importantly, I will also do what this administration has
failed to do in its nearly four years in office: I will address the issue
of the millions of undocumented immigrants who labor, often abused, in the
shadows of our country."
John Kerry is committed to offer a comprehensive immigration reform bill
within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration. This proposal
would allow immigrants to earn legalization, encourage family reunification
and strengthen border protections. Kerry's plan will include a visa worker
program that will provide real labor protections to our nation's entire
labor force, unlike President Bush's proposal, which creates a permanent
underclass.
"By reforming our immigration laws, creating and keeping jobs in America,
making health care more accessible and providing a path to higher education,
we will honor America's promise," said Kerry.
"As president I would immediately sign the AgJobs bill, and would also sign
the DREAM Act to make higher education a reality for tens of thousands of
students, opening the doors of opportunity to them," John Kerry said.
"Within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration, I will offer a
reform bill that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification, and strengthens our border protections. By reforming our
immigration laws, we will honor America's promise and strengthen America's
economy and security."
He will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to
earn legalization, encourages family reunification
He also unveiled plans to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to
Congress in his first hundred days as President, to ensure that good people
who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes
have a path to equal citizenship in the American community
"Hundreds of people seeking only a better life for their children die
terrible deaths in the desert, often at the hands of cruel smugglers," said
Kerry. "Millions live in the shadows of our country, frightened and often
abused. It is time to fulfill the promise of America, so that those who
work hard and take responsibility can build a better life for themselves and
their families."
Kerry's plan will help lift up workers, particularly women and minorities,
and prepare them for the jobs of the future. It includes $10 billion for
states that keep college tuition down, new efforts to encourage 1 million
girls and minorities to pursue science and math, a new initiative to
encourage college completion and new support for worker training.
Thanks again for posting this.


" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
Jim
2004-09-15 11:29:43 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
John Kerry is flooding America with Mexicans that must
vote for him => 18+ million more people !!
How is John Kerry flooding America with Mexicans?
And only citizens may vote.
Post by Yora Ishmel
on the welfare roles, and in the hospitals, and many
more coming up from the boarder now, it is their last chance.
Why are Mexicans crossing the border?
Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
As president, John Kerry will offer a reform bill in his first 100
days that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification,Under the Kerry-Edwards approach, undocumented workers
who
Post by Yora Ishmel
have lived and worked here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are
successfully screened for security purposes will have a path to
citizenship.
Give me your tired, your poor
Your huddled masses yearing to breathe free
Post by Yora Ishmel
As president, John Kerry will also expand opportunities to learn
English and
Post by Yora Ishmel
obtain civic education classes to help immigrants assume all of the
rights
Post by Yora Ishmel
and responsibilities of citizenshipKerry has a different approach.
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore
Send them, the homeless and the tempest-tost to me
Post by Yora Ishmel
He will offer a reform bill in his
first 100 days that allows immigrants to earn
legalization, This bill will secure the rights and futures for hard-working,
honorable agricultural workers and will secure a legal labor force for
America's farmers. undocumented workers who have lived and worked here for 5
years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for security
purposes will have a path to citizenship
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.
--Emma Lazarus
Post by Yora Ishmel
Under John Kerry's approach, undocumented workers who have lived and worked
here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for
security purposes will have a path to citizenship. Kerry will also expand
opportunities to learn English and obtain civic education classes to help
immigrants assume all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.
That is a good idea.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Reuniting Families.
Family values.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry will eliminate the massive administrative backlog
and delay that has left many families unnecessarily divided for a decade or
more. Our Nation's immigration system must be able to more quickly reunite
husbands with wives, parents with children. Legal permanent residents
seeking to reunify with spouses and children must be provided a fair and
efficient process to do so, and let them in.
I am almost convinced to vote for Kerry!!
Thank you for posting this.
Post by Yora Ishmel
Visa Program with Worker Protections. Kerry will establish a secure channel
for a limited number of temporary workers to come into the United States. To
protect all working people in the United States, Kerry will ensure that
these temporary workers have the protections of U.S. employment and labor
laws, including fair wage protections. These protections must be rigorously
enforced.
John Kerry called into the United Farm Workers annual conference being held
in Fresno, California, and restated his commitment to sign the AgJobs and
DREAM Act bills pending in Congress and to introduce comprehensive
immigration reform within his first 100 days as President.
The AgJobs bill is bipartisan legislation that will secure the rights and
futures for hard working, honorable agricultural workers and will secure a
legal labor force for America's farmers. The Dream Act would make higher
education a reality for tens of thousands of immigrant students, opening the
doors of opportunity to them.
"As president, I would immediately sign the AgJobs and DREAM Act bills,"
said Kerry. "More importantly, I will also do what this administration has
failed to do in its nearly four years in office: I will address the issue
of the millions of undocumented immigrants who labor, often abused, in the
shadows of our country."
John Kerry is committed to offer a comprehensive immigration reform bill
within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration. This proposal
would allow immigrants to earn legalization, encourage family reunification
and strengthen border protections. Kerry's plan will include a visa worker
program that will provide real labor protections to our nation's entire
labor force, unlike President Bush's proposal, which creates a permanent
underclass.
"By reforming our immigration laws, creating and keeping jobs in America,
making health care more accessible and providing a path to higher education,
we will honor America's promise," said Kerry.
"As president I would immediately sign the AgJobs bill, and would also sign
the DREAM Act to make higher education a reality for tens of thousands of
students, opening the doors of opportunity to them," John Kerry said.
"Within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration, I will offer a
reform bill that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification, and strengthens our border protections. By reforming our
immigration laws, we will honor America's promise and strengthen America's
economy and security."
He will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to
earn legalization, encourages family reunification
He also unveiled plans to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to
Congress in his first hundred days as President, to ensure that good people
who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes
have a path to equal citizenship in the American community
"Hundreds of people seeking only a better life for their children die
terrible deaths in the desert, often at the hands of cruel smugglers," said
Kerry. "Millions live in the shadows of our country, frightened and often
abused. It is time to fulfill the promise of America, so that those who
work hard and take responsibility can build a better life for themselves and
their families."
Kerry's plan will help lift up workers, particularly women and minorities,
and prepare them for the jobs of the future. It includes $10 billion for
states that keep college tuition down, new efforts to encourage 1 million
girls and minorities to pursue science and math, a new initiative to
encourage college completion and new support for worker training.
Thanks again for posting this.
" ... the real difference between liberals and conservatives in this
country is that conservatives think sex is very, very important and
liberals think sex is essentially trivial. ... " --Jane Haddam
http://www.janehaddam.com/chd/sex.html
Carol Smith, whose cliche riddled gibberish goes aid and comfort to
those who care not for a stable population. And what about the
environmental impact of population growth?

James
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-16 00:00:21 UTC
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Your children will be/are unemployed because of the Kerry mexican prommise
and swarm.
Ken Leander
2004-09-15 23:03:00 UTC
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"Yora Ishmel" <***@wewewewe.sdsd> wrote in message news:***@uni-berlin.de...

Yep, 65% of legalized Mexicans vote the socialist Democrap ticket. It's
funny because they come from a bankrupt socialist country. You'd think
they'd learn, wudntcha?
Yora Ishmel
2004-09-15 05:50:37 UTC
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Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
As president, John Kerry will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that
allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification,Under the Kerry-Edwards approach, undocumented workers who
have lived and worked here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are
successfully screened for security purposes will have a path to citizenship.
As president, John Kerry will also expand opportunities to learn English and
obtain civic education classes to help immigrants assume all of the rights
and responsibilities of citizenshipKerry has a different approach. He will
offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to earn
legalization, This bill will secure the rights and futures for hard-working,
honorable agricultural workers and will secure a legal labor force for
America's farmers. undocumented workers who have lived and worked here for 5
years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for security
purposes will have a path to citizenship
Under John Kerry's approach, undocumented workers who have lived and worked
here for 5 years, who pay taxes, and who are successfully screened for
security purposes will have a path to citizenship. Kerry will also expand
opportunities to learn English and obtain civic education classes to help
immigrants assume all of the rights and responsibilities of citizenship.

Reuniting Families. Kerry will eliminate the massive administrative backlog
and delay that has left many families unnecessarily divided for a decade or
more. Our Nation's immigration system must be able to more quickly reunite
husbands with wives, parents with children. Legal permanent residents
seeking to reunify with spouses and children must be provided a fair and
efficient process to do so.

Visa Program with Worker Protections. Kerry will establish a secure channel
for a limited number of temporary workers to come into the United States. To
protect all working people in the United States, Kerry will ensure that
these temporary workers have the protections of U.S. employment and labor
laws, including fair wage protections. These protections must be rigorously
enforced.

John Kerry called into the United Farm Workers annual conference being held
in Fresno, California, and restated his commitment to sign the AgJobs and
DREAM Act bills pending in Congress and to introduce comprehensive
immigration reform within his first 100 days as President.


The AgJobs bill is bipartisan legislation that will secure the rights and
futures for hard working, honorable agricultural workers and will secure a
legal labor force for America's farmers. The Dream Act would make higher
education a reality for tens of thousands of immigrant students, opening the
doors of opportunity to them.

"As president, I would immediately sign the AgJobs and DREAM Act bills,"
said Kerry. "More importantly, I will also do what this administration has
failed to do in its nearly four years in office: I will address the issue
of the millions of undocumented immigrants who labor, often abused, in the
shadows of our country."

John Kerry is committed to offer a comprehensive immigration reform bill
within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration. This proposal
would allow immigrants to earn legalization, encourage family reunification
and strengthen border protections. Kerry's plan will include a visa worker
program that will provide real labor protections to our nation's entire
labor force, unlike President Bush's proposal, which creates a permanent
underclass.

"By reforming our immigration laws, creating and keeping jobs in America,
making health care more accessible and providing a path to higher education,
we will honor America's promise," said Kerry.

"As president I would immediately sign the AgJobs bill, and would also sign
the DREAM Act to make higher education a reality for tens of thousands of
students, opening the doors of opportunity to them," John Kerry said.
"Within the first 100 days of a Kerry-Edwards administration, I will offer a
reform bill that allows immigrants to earn legalization, encourages family
reunification, and strengthens our border protections. By reforming our
immigration laws, we will honor America's promise and strengthen America's
economy and security."

He will offer a reform bill in his first 100 days that allows immigrants to
earn legalization, encourages family reunification

He also unveiled plans to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to
Congress in his first hundred days as President, to ensure that good people
who are undocumented but are living here, working hard, and paying taxes
have a path to equal citizenship in the American community

"Hundreds of people seeking only a better life for their children die
terrible deaths in the desert, often at the hands of cruel smugglers," said
Kerry. "Millions live in the shadows of our country, frightened and often
abused. It is time to fulfill the promise of America, so that those who
work hard and take responsibility can build a better life for themselves and
their families."

Kerry's plan will help lift up workers, particularly women and minorities,
and prepare them for the jobs of the future. It includes $10 billion for
states that keep college tuition down, new efforts to encourage 1 million
girls and minorities to pursue science and math, a new initiative to
encourage college completion and new support for worker training.
r***@REMOVE_THIS.hotmail.com
2004-09-15 23:28:00 UTC
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Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
in.
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
More than once he has promised legislation to make all illegals
citizens within the first 100 days of his presidency. He got a
rousing applause at the meeting of one hispanic group where he
announced it at ( think it was La Raza ). The two parties are in a no
holes barred competition to see who can outdo the other at
hispandering.

( modify address for return email )

www.numbersusa.com
www.americanpatrol.com
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-16 05:55:36 UTC
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Behind a cloak of anonymity, on Wed, 15 Sep 2004
Post by r***@REMOVE_THIS.hotmail.com
Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by Yora Ishmel
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are
flooding in.
It is part of his platform.
And your referent is where?
You must have left it out of your message.
Go look on his website,
More than once he has promised legislation to make all illegals
citizens within the first 100 days of his presidency.
That should be easy to prove. You can start here:

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/immigration.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629c.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831d.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/communities/asian_americans/immigration.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0828e.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0721c.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/civil_rights/

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0831_esp.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0629e.html

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/pr_2004_0629e_immigration.pdf
Stan
2004-09-16 18:33:59 UTC
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Post by Yora Ishmel
Post by jay
From the current issue of Time Magazine, an in-depth article on
the subject of illegal immigration...
"Who Left the Door Open?
"Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into
the U.S. is scandalously easy?and on the rise. Millions of
illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border
this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME
looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S.
fails to protect itself
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?
Jay
Kerry proposes to make them all US citizens, that is why they are flooding
in.
It is part of his platform.
Voting citizens, no doubt.
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Stan, New Orleans

http://www.neworleansphotographs.com
http://www.atneworleans.com
http://www.sbeckart.com/sbeck
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-14 21:44:53 UTC
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Post by jay
From the current issue of Time Magazine, an in-depth article on
the subject of illegal immigration...
"Who Left the Door Open?
"Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into
the U.S. is scandalously easy?and on the rise. Millions of
illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border
this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME
looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S.
fails to protect itself
"By DONALD L. BARLETT & JAMES B. STEELE
"The next time you pass through an airport and have to
produce a photo ID to establish who you are and then must
remove your shoes, take off your belt, empty your pockets,
<snip>
Post by jay
You can buy the magazine on the newsstand or pay to read the full
article on Time's website, but KFI AM-640 radio in Los Angeles
www.kfi640.com/time_dooropen.html
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?
-----excerpt-----

The highest levels of the U.S. and Mexican
governments have orchestrated this situation as a kind of dance: Mexico
sends its poor north to take jobs illegally, and the U.S., in turn,
arrests enough of the border crossers to create the illusion that it is
enforcing the immigration laws, while allowing the great majority to get
through, TIME reports.

How Corporate America Thrives on Illegals

Investigations targeting employers of illegal aliens dropped more than
70%, from 7,053 in 1992 to 2,061 in 2002. Arrests on job sites declined
from 8,027 in 1992 to 451 in 2002. Perhaps the most dramatic decline:
the final orders levying fines for immigration-law violations plunged
99%, from 1,063 in 1992 to 13 in 2002. In 2002 the old Immigration and
Naturalization Service (INS) issued orders levying fines on only 13
employers for hiring illegal aliens, a minuscule portion of the
thousands of offenders.

Both political parties and their candidates pay lip service to
controlling the borders. But neither President Bush nor Senator Kerry
supports a system that would end the incentive for border crossers by
cracking down on the employers of illegals, TIME reports.
Stan
2004-09-16 18:40:57 UTC
Permalink
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by jay
From the current issue of Time Magazine, an in-depth article on
the subject of illegal immigration...
"Who Left the Door Open?
"Despite all the talk of homeland security, sneaking into
the U.S. is scandalously easy?and on the rise. Millions of
illegal aliens will pour across the U.S.-Mexican border
this year, many from countries hostile to America. TIME
looks at the damage, the dangers and the reasons the U.S.
fails to protect itself
"By DONALD L. BARLETT & JAMES B. STEELE
"The next time you pass through an airport and have to
produce a photo ID to establish who you are and then must
remove your shoes, take off your belt, empty your pockets,
<snip>
Post by jay
You can buy the magazine on the newsstand or pay to read the full
article on Time's website, but KFI AM-640 radio in Los Angeles
www.kfi640.com/time_dooropen.html
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?
-----excerpt-----
The highest levels of the U.S. and Mexican
governments have orchestrated this situation as a kind of dance: Mexico
sends its poor north to take jobs illegally, and the U.S., in turn,
arrests enough of the border crossers to create the illusion that it is
enforcing the immigration laws, while allowing the great majority to get
through, TIME reports.
How Corporate America Thrives on Illegals
Investigations targeting employers of illegal aliens dropped more than
70%, from 7,053 in 1992 to 2,061 in 2002. Arrests on job sites declined
the final orders levying fines for immigration-law violations plunged
99%, from 1,063 in 1992 to 13 in 2002. In 2002 the old Immigration and
Naturalization Service (INS) issued orders levying fines on only 13
employers for hiring illegal aliens, a minuscule portion of the
thousands of offenders.
Both political parties and their candidates pay lip service to
controlling the borders. But neither President Bush nor Senator Kerry
supports a system that would end the incentive for border crossers by
cracking down on the employers of illegals, TIME reports.
No, it goes like this:

There are two distinct classes in Mexico: The rich and powerful and the
poor.
Mexico figures the poor are a drain on their way of life, and education
them and providing good jobs for them will create this vast,
uncontrollable middle class. Their solution is to dump this undesired
class upon the U.S., reserve their elite status, wealth and power, while
undermining our economy and thereby, bringing the peso in line with the
U.S. dollar.

For our part, if we turn our heads, they will let us sell our goods
there, and maybe (wink) help us with our drug problem.
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Stan, New Orleans

http://www.neworleansphotographs.com
http://www.atneworleans.com
http://www.sbeckart.com/sbeck
Carol Lee Smith
2004-09-18 08:14:11 UTC
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Post by Stan
Post by Carol Lee Smith
Post by jay
And which of our great national "leaders" will step forward with a
plan to secure our borders? Or will the lure of cheap labor and cheap
votes prevail?
-----excerpt-----
The highest levels of the U.S. and Mexican
governments have orchestrated this situation as a kind of dance: Mexico
sends its poor north to take jobs illegally, and the U.S., in turn,
arrests enough of the border crossers to create the illusion that it is
enforcing the immigration laws, while allowing the great majority to get
through, TIME reports.
How Corporate America Thrives on Illegals
Investigations targeting employers of illegal aliens dropped more than
70%, from 7,053 in 1992 to 2,061 in 2002. Arrests on job sites declined
the final orders levying fines for immigration-law violations plunged
99%, from 1,063 in 1992 to 13 in 2002. In 2002 the old Immigration and
Naturalization Service (INS) issued orders levying fines on only 13
employers for hiring illegal aliens, a minuscule portion of the
thousands of offenders.
Both political parties and their candidates pay lip service to
controlling the borders. But neither President Bush nor Senator Kerry
supports a system that would end the incentive for border crossers by
cracking down on the employers of illegals, TIME reports.
There are two distinct classes in Mexico: The rich and powerful and the
poor.
The Mexican poor would not be coming here if there were no jobs. If US
corporations were not using the cheap labor, the laborers wouldn't come to
fil the need.
Post by Stan
Mexico figures the poor are a drain on their way of life, and education
them and providing good jobs for them will create this vast,
uncontrollable middle class. Their solution is to dump this undesired
class upon the U.S., reserve their elite status, wealth and power, while
undermining our economy and thereby, bringing the peso in line with the
U.S. dollar.
See above.
Post by Stan
For our part, if we turn our heads, they will let us sell our goods
there, and maybe (wink) help us with our drug problem.
Who in Mexico is going to buy our goods? What goods?

There are very, very few people in Mexico who can afford our goods. The
Mexican poor are not going to keep our companies in business by buying our
goods.
Ronald
2004-09-18 16:17:30 UTC
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On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 03:14:11 -0500, Carol Lee Smith
Post by Carol Lee Smith
There are very, very few people in Mexico who can afford our goods. The
Mexican poor are not going to keep our companies in business by buying our
goods.
"Keep you hands off my goods."
Bogart as Fred C. Dobbs, "The Treasure of ther Serria Madre".
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